By ghostops98 |

example: Tronco
Nicolas Lozano
Jose santos Lozano 1. Timotea Lozano
Proquinta Lozano 2. Telisfora Reinaga
Maria Trinidad Alvarez 3. Lorenzo Galaviz
Jose Guadalupe Duran 4. Maria Galaviz

how do I read this I guess im confused in why certain names are on that list and others are not. example: Maria Trinidad Alvarez is Jose Guadalupe Duran mother why is his dad not on the list.

Thats pretty much all about those "troncos", in this case starts with Nicolas Lozano, then the first generation (primer grado de consanguinidad) are brother and sister; Jose santos and Timotea, their kids, first cousins are Proquinta and Telisfora, their kids, second cousins are Ma. Trinidad and Lorenzo, and the last ones, third cousins, Jose G. and Maria, which in this case they must be the Groom and Bride.

The advantage of this information is that it can take you back a couple of generations even with people who have different last names, like in this case. Also even if the name of the spouses are not given we can a least know their possible last name with their kids, thus Timotea Lozano must have married someone with the Reinaga surname, and so on. Those are a least some extra clues.

I want to thank you so much for taking your valued time and helping me out with this I am so greatful. you have given me some knowledge that will help me with my quest. once again thank you and have a blessed day

No problem, I am glad I can help even just a little, and I keep learning on the process. By the way I am curious, those last names sound like Nochistlan's or around the area, are they?.

yes I been told that sometime before jalpa. Nochistlan was were most came from I havent looked in Nochistlan yet I was tring to get as much as I could from Jalpa and surroundings. I am new to looking for my ancestors Iam trying to get an angle at this if there is one maybe there isnt.Ived found 26 people so far with the little that i know and people like yourself helping people like me it helps alot I think Nochistlan will be my next stop any suggestion that might put me in the right direction. oh before I forget which last names sound like Nochistlan? Dad side: Perez ,Frias, Villarreal,Salas Mom side: Duran,Cocolan,Lozano,Martinez. The last names I found with the new grandparents I found Dad side: Silva ,Huerta ,Rodriguez ,Munoz ,Medina ,Cuarenta and Mom side:Alvarez,Lopez,Figueroa,Juaquin, I didnt plan to write this much sorry

I have studied some records there but haven't fully landed on the area yet (although I am going backwards, from older ancestors to earliest), seen Duran and Lozano in the same record make me think it could it be related to Nochistlan, it was just a guess more than knowledge though, I have some Lozano from there on my ancestors but haven't had the time to study them, those names seams very prolific there, same as Frias, Perez and Rodriguez, since very early in time. Don't hesitate asking here in the forums, there is lots of knowledgeable people that can help, I myself found many interesting facts here.

Well, It wasn't a genealogical tree, those relationship diagrams where only to point out the "parentesco" and the degree of it. Thus if just one line is at question, all other individuals are left out (unfortunately for us). This information where not meant for the individuals but rather for the ecclesiastical authorities to check, thus they have to simplify it, putting extra information (including the names of the husbands/wifes) could made difficult to understand, something that they would not likely want to bother with.

As a side note the 1st degree are brothers, and goes on from there. Also if there was more than one line of relationship then they would add a diagram for each line.

Its always better to hear others that have seen this situation. thanks for the informative info on the tronco in the marriage record.I am going to try to post the record I am seeing.

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