By abram101 |

Hi there every one,

So today I have hit a brick with the ancestor of mine (Fabian Rodriguez Santana) he married 3 time, and in all of three of those marriages Fabians parents are not mentioned at all.I have looked through all the baptism available and found padrinos with the same surname as fabian (Rodriguez Santana)Juan Rodriguez Santana & Gertudis Rodriguez Santana.What can I do next any suggestions?

1)Fabian Rodriguez & Margarita Perez De Gardea
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15187-50955-59?cc=1410092&wc…

2)Fabian Rodriguez & Bernarda Ramirez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15185-44093-23?cc=1410092&wc…

3)Fabian Rodriguez & Manuela Ximenez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15185-45886-40?cc=1410092&wc…

Hi there Armando,

Thanks for all the help, and excuse my ignorance but i have no clue on how to locate a dispensation record.I also have no clue what it is.
May you please explain to me what a dispensation is and how to locate it Familysearch.org?I went to the link you gave and i found the names Fabian Rodriguez and Margarita Perez and there is a number in the beginning(071)what does that number stand for?It would be an honor to do so again excuse my ignorance because i also have no clue on how to index a film sorry for being completely ignorant.

Hi Abram,

Towards the top of each page of indexed dispensation records on Claudia's blog, Guadalajara Dispensas, there's a link to the film itself, right after the term "Source film." That link takes you to the first page of the film being indexed. The number 071 refers to the image number, 71, which you type into the box on the page-- that is why we index, so you don't have to search page-by-page.

Here's the link for the record for Fabian and Margarita: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18417-37963-26?cc=1874591&wc… .

The record does identify the parents of both people-- I'll let you read that part.

Good luck!

Rosalinda Ruiz

victorianonavarro (not verified)

12 years 2 months ago

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Unfortunately in many marriage records when groom is a widower, instead of writing the names of his parents they would write down the name of the late wife (same for widows marrying). So, if the parents are not mentioned in the first marriage, then you have to search for other documents as Armando says.
Regards,
Victoriano Navarro

Victoriano,

I know that is a complete bummer that what be such a time saver if it did mention the parents names.

Abram Flores

You should look for the records of Información Matrimonial to see of the parents are mentioned there. You should also look for the records of marriages and Información Matrimonial of children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. Once you have looked for all of those you should look for dispensas of children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren.

This is the same process you should be using for everyone you have not found ancestors for.

Since you have so many ancestors in Nochistlán it would be worth your time to index all of the Información Matrimonial records. You can make a spreadsheet with names of the bride and the groom and their parents and the date. It can be time consuming but you it will likely help you a lot.

Armando

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