By 245luigi |

I found this very nice dispensa (thanks to Katy's website) for the marriage of Isabel Sanchez de Porras to Miguel de la Mora Hurtado de Mendoza widow of Getrudis de Alderete

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18378-3962-36?cc=1874591&wc=…

Its a nice dispensa because it includes more information than average and clarifies the Sanchez de Porras lines. Included is

Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo 1 Leonor de Hermosillo
Leonor Gonzalez de Hermosillo 2 Francisco Gutierrez de Hermosillo
Geronimo Sanchez de Porras 3 Leonor Gutierrez de Hermosillo
Isabel Sanchez de Porras 4 Miguel de la Mora

The significant other of each person is listed as well (except for Leonor Gutierrez de Hermosillo, which through other sources I know to be Juan de la Mora)

Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Ana Gonzalez Florida
Leonor Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Geronimo Sanzhez de Porras, el Viejo (Captain)
Geronimo Sanchez de Porras, el Mozo (Captain) and Maria Anna Suarez de Ibarra

Leonor de Hermosillo and Miguel Gutierrez
Francisco Gutierrez de Hermosillo and Juana Carvajal

Witnesses include Juan Sanchez de Porras (Captain, I also have seen him as Sargent) son of Geronimo Sanchez de Porras, el Viejo and Pedro Sanchez de Porras (Alferez), also son of Geronimo Sanchez de Porras, el Viejo. It is also explicity stated that Miguel Gutierrez and Ana Gonzalez Florida are siblings, so the top of the lineages are a pair of sibling who married another pair of siblings.

I figure I'd post this dispensa because of all of the many details it has. I have seen on many online trees that Geronimo is married to both Leonor Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Maria Ana Suarez de Ibarra. I also noticed the dispensa states that Francisco Gutierrez de Hermosillo married Juana de Carvajal. Is the use of this surname correct? I havent researched her but many trees show that her surname should be Lomelin or Benavides and she married Rodrigo Carvajal.

I also confirmed today that Juana Suarez de Ibarra and Maria Anna Suarez de Ibarra are sisters. This was probably a suspicion for all but I confirmed it for myself. Also surprisingly...Juana Suarez de Ibarra married el Viejo after Leonor Gonzalez de Hermosillo passed away while el Mozo married Maria Anna Suarez de Ibarra. Ill post the document that proves this by Monday

Here is the dispensa I promised.

Joseph Estevan Sanchez de Porras h.l. Francisco Sanchez de Porras and Josepha de la Mora marrying Maria Anna Sanchez de Porras h.l. Juan Antonio Sanchez de Porras and Rosa de Ortega.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18427-69205-18?cc=1874591&wc…

The dispensa shows that
Geronimo Sanchez de Porras (el mozo) 1 Juan Antonio Sanchez de Porras
Francisco Sanchez de Porras 2 Maria Anna Sanchez de Porras
Joseph Estevan Sanchez de Porras 3

and

Mariana Suarez de Ibarra 1 Juana Suarez de Ibarra
Francisco Sanchez de Porras 2 Juan Antonio Sanchez de Porras
Joseph Estevan Sanchez de Porras 3 Maria Anna Sanchez de Porras

After Leonor Gonzalez de Hermosillo died in 1673, Geronimo Sanchez de Porras, el Viejo, married Juana Sanchez de Porras in 1677. Juan Antonio Sanchez de Porras is the only son I know of from this couple. Geronimo Sanchez de Porras, el Mozo, married Juana's sister, Mariana Suarez de Ibarra sometime around 1681 - 1686.

Side question: Have you been able to resolve how Elena Illian de Vargas traces back her lineage to Diego Garcia de Colio? My spanish is not good enough to figure it out positively.

coronaarechiga

9 years 8 months ago

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Thank you for providing this easy to understand review of this dispensa. It helped me realize that some parts of my tree was incorrect (too many Leonors and Juans). As for Geronimo Sanchez de Porras (Viejo and Mozo) I also found an Orden, thanks to the labors of Katy Brecht, for Juan Manuel Sanchez de Porras; son and grandson that demonstrates that they were two separate people. Another reason to work only with primary sources.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18378-37511-28?cc=1874591&wc…

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