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I have just finished posting my pedigree tree from my bisabuela Ma. DELGADO to Petronila MOCTEZUMA. I've seen that Petronila has already been convered on this site. However, I wanted to know what the final consensus was on her lineage to Moctezuma. And, does anyone have that data? The file can be found at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/filemanager/active?fid=2903

Other names in her tree are TISCARENO RUIS ESPARZA ESPINOSA MARQUEZ MOLINA NAVARRO DIAZ DELGADO. Can anyone expand on the data I have on those names that file? Thanks in advance for any help.

Luis JAIME

I have seen the statement "Petronila was acknowledged as the great-granddaughter of Moctezuma" in numerousplaces. Does any have the source of this statement, or a reference to the source, or a scan of the document where it appears?

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Daniel,Great to hear that. Please send me that file. I can't wait to update my records. I think what I'll do is keep updating that file and share it with everyone bit by bit, if it's okay with everyone?So about Petronila... She is a descendant from Moctezuma. It's just a matter of how she is?Luis-----Original Message-----From: "Daniel Mndez del Camino" [mendezdelcamino@live.com]Date: 02/17/2009 11:11 PMTo: "Patty Hoyos" Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] MOCTEZUMA, Petronila Hi Luís, this is really cool to see. Were related through her at least. I come several times from her. I can sed you a file later in the week. Anyway about that consensus, I think its impossible unless we find the lost document in Mexico City (its believed to there) in the Spanish genelaogy world no one can be exact with Petronila, even in our Ranchos group we always debate and are still seperated on different claims one says Leonor, the other says Isabel another says both Leonor and Isabel and now Pedro. Es una locura. I support the both Leonor and Isabel claim. This is my claim like many other in the group and the rest of the fields of research, here are the claims people have: I support the first one: Petronila was know to be a bisnieta del emperador Azteca! (which one shows bisnieta?) The first one. This had been regarded "más o menos" to be the one for now. -Daniel Camino Moctezuma II Moctezuma II Moctezuma II Moctezuma II Isabel Isabel Leonor Pedro Leonor Petronila Petronila Petronila Petronila _________________________________________________________________ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_sa… -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List To post, send email to: research(at)nuestrosranchos.org To change your subscription, log on to: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org

Hi Luís, this is really cool to see. Were related through her at least. I come several times from her. I can sed you a file later in the week. Anyway about that consensus, I think its impossible unless we find the lost document in Mexico City (its believed to there) in the Spanish genelaogy world no one can be exact with Petronila, even in our Ranchos group we always debate and are still seperated on different claims one says Leonor, the other says Isabel another says both Leonor and Isabel and now Pedro. Es una locura. I support the both Leonor and Isabel claim.

This is my claim like many other in the group and the rest of the fields of research,
here are the claims people have: I support the first one:

Petronila was know to be a bisnieta del emperador Azteca! (which one shows bisnieta?)
The first one. This had been regarded "más o menos" to be the one for now. -Daniel Camino

Moctezuma II Moctezuma II Moctezuma II Moctezuma II
Isabel Isabel Leonor Pedro
Leonor Petronila Petronila Petronila
Petronila

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Daniel,

What about this periodical?
http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/the_americas/v063/63.3schwaller…
It claims to have his children.

Luis

Daniel M�ndez del Camino wrote:
> Hi Luís, this is really cool to see. Were related through her at least. I come several times from her. I can sed you a file later in the week. Anyway about that consensus, I think its impossible unless we find the lost document in Mexico City (its believed to there) in the Spanish genelaogy world no one can be exact with Petronila, even in our Ranchos group we always debate and are still seperated on different claims one says Leonor, the other says Isabel another says both Leonor and Isabel and now Pedro. Es una locura. I support the both Leonor and Isabel claim.
>
> This is my claim like many other in the group and the rest of the fields of research,
> here are the claims people have: I support the first one:
>
> Petronila was know to be a bisnieta del emperador Azteca! (which one shows bisnieta?)
> The first one. This had been regarded "más o menos" to be the one for now. -Daniel Camino
>
> Moctezuma II Moctezuma II Moctezuma II Moctezuma II
> Isabel Isabel Leonor Pedro
> Leonor Petronila Petronila Petronila
> Petronila
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>
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