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What I said was, "I find some of those stories coming from Sombrerete, Zacatecas, and now Lester thinks it came from Coahuila. You say the story came from Lagos in Jalisco".

I didn't say you said Thomas was from Coahuila, just that the story also came from there. The Edison descendant said he wouldn't care if Thomas was born in Mexico if he was, but he knows he wasn't. Why should it be proved otherwise?

Emilie

Emilie,

Maybe you can't see where you are implying that I believe that Thomas comes from Coahila but , when a person says " I THINK " that implies that they may believe it or may believe it to be TRUE .

I, in no way THINK or BELIEVE this to be true or possible .

As for the proof , don't you think as a genealogist you've learned that word of mouth cannot be enough we all look for documents and or in this case as someone mentioned a DNA test .

Hopes this clears up some of the issues here Emilie . Let's end this one here , OK .

Take care,
Welester

>> What I said was, "I find some of those stories coming from Sombrerete, Zacatecas, and now Lester thinks it came from Coahuila. You say the story came from Lagos in Jalisco". > > I didn't say you said Thomas was from Coahuila, just that the story also came from there. The Edison descendant said he wouldn't care if Thomas was born in Mexico if he was, but he knows he wasn't. Why should it be proved otherwise? > > Emilie >
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Just had to put my 2 cents worth in.. This dialogue shows how many of us who are working on documenting the truth that may change the family stories is sometimes uncomfortable or unwelcome by older family members.  Oral traditions usually have at least a grain of truth and when we discover records disproving the stories/history that the elders have shared it is not always received with open arms. Most people don't like to be told things that change their truth as they have known it.
 
In my Castanon family we have had a family reunion once a year for the last 30 years.  I usually share what I've found that year proving or disproving our history from the district of Jerez Zacatecas.. I have learned to temper what I share since it is not always welcome.
 
  My research proved we were not French or German as I was told by my grandfather. My researched showed my gr-grandparents were cousins, that certainly was not welcomed since my Fathers generation knew them and just knew that "good" Catholics did not marry their cousins.  My researched proved Mulato and Indio ancestors and the elders knew that couldn't be true since a black person never lived in the district of Jerez Zacatecas!
 
In my case I am the last generation that understands or speaks any Spanish at all so I felt I was the one most able to do the research that future generations might not be able to do as easily.  I also know that research usually means the most to those of us who've done the work, put in the time and money and shared openly and freely what the documentation has proved to us.. and then again... documentation is not always correct since we've seen many errors in records and have to almost see a name at least twice to feel we have proved the truth..  just my 2 cents worth.
 
Linda in B.C.
 

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Lester Alvarado wrote:

From: Lester Alvarado
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Emilie
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 5:55 AM 

As for the proof , don't you think as a genealogist you've learned that
word of mouth cannot be enough we all look for documents and or in this case as
someone mentioned a DNA test . 
 

I apologize if I misinterpreted what you had said.

What I was trying to point out to people in Mexico who think that Alva Edison was a surname, is that in America men used old-fashioned given names out of the Bible, and that in Mexico he would have been known as Thomas Alva Edison Elliott.

I found Thomas listed originally in a census as Alvah, and it comes from the Bible, Chronicles 1: "The chiefs of Edom were: chiefs Timna, Alvah, Jetheth, 52 Oholibamah, Elah, Pinon, 53 Kenaz, Teman, Mibzar, 54 Magdiel, and Iram; these are the chiefs of Edom".

Emilie

Hi Emilie ,

Lets' start all over . Hi , My name is Welester G. Alvarado it's indeed a pleasure to know you and there is absolutely no need for you to apoligize .

I am an American from Los Angeles , California now living in Monterrey , Mexico . I came here almost 7 yrs. ago to find my roots . I was only going to stay here for one year and ended up going on 7 .

In the process I started two companies and still haven't finished my genealogy . I found some of my ancestors from Zacatecas ( Saldivar , Trevino maybe Alvarado ) . Esther Herold helped me connect the dots from there to Monterrey .

Take care ,
Welester> > > I apologize if I misinterpreted what you had said. > > What I was trying to point out to people in Mexico who think that Alva Edison was a surname, is that in America men used old-fashioned given names out of the Bible, and that in Mexico he would have been known as Thomas Alva Edison Elliott. > > I found Thomas listed originally in a census as Alvah, and it comes from the Bible, Chronicles 1: "The chiefs of Edom were: chiefs Timna, Alvah, Jetheth, 52 Oholibamah, Elah, Pinon, 53 Kenaz, Teman, Mibzar, 54 Magdiel, and Iram; these are the chiefs of Edom".> > Emilie> > >
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