By Sofia |

Hello Everyone,

My investigation has lead me to Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza and her father Lope Ruiz de Esparza with an anknown mother. Searching here in Nuestros Ranchos I found that her mother was Francisca Gabai Navarro de Moctezuma and Francisca's mother's name was Petronila Navarro and her father was Martin Navarro. Supposibly there is a Cortez/ Moctezuma connection threw Petronila.
I would like to know if what I have discovered is true and how much truth is there about the Cortez/Moctezuma connection.

Thank you for any help.
Sofia

Hola a Todos,

He descubierto en mí investigacion a Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza y su padre Lope Ruiz de Esparza con una madre no-cococido. Buscando aquí en Nuestros Ranchos encontre que la madre de Lorenza era Francisca Gabai Navarro de Moctezuma y los padres de Francisca eran Petronila Navarro y Martin Navarro, Petrolina teniendo una conexion con Cortez/Moctezuma. ¿Es que lo que encontre es la verdad? ¿Y cuanta verdad hay en el conexion Cortez/Moctezuma?

Gracias por cual quer ayuda.
Sofia

Hola Sofia! I too descend from this line along with abt 85% of this group as well descend from Lope, Lord of Esparza the fact is there is little evidence to which line Petronila comes from Cortes or Valderrama? We're not sure due to the lack of evidence in the early years of the Spanish colonization of Nueva Espana. I can somewhat determine due to the time and age of people she should descend from Hernando Cortes but this group and spanish genealogists as well are divided into who believe we descend from Cortes or Valderrama; it is also hard to determine since there are abt 5 Leonors who are either half sisters, cousins and such. Moctezuma had Isabel and Leonor, Isabel married Cortes and Leonor married Valderrama from here it's where thing gets complicated. Although we do know Petronila de Moctezuma should have at least be a great grandchild of the aztec emperor. -Daniel MdC
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sandragomezenriquez

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Hi Sofia,

You are right. Many of us in the group are part of that family line. I'm traveling right now and don't have the info with me, ill send tomorrow.

Saludos!
Sandra Gomez Mendoza

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Thank you so much Sandra I really appreciate it.

Sofia> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> From: sandragomezmendoza@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:10:08 +0000> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Lope Ruiz de Esparza.........question/pregunta> > Hi Sofia,> > You are right. Many of us in the group are part of that family line. I'm traveling right now and don't have the info with me, ill send tomorrow. > > Saludos!> Sandra Gomez Mendoza
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