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I compiled a comprehensive list of the indexed films of the Guadalajara marriage dispensations to help track of which films have been indexed. The sources included are the following:

**Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara by Maria de la Luz Montejano Hilton (book)

** http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/ by Claudia Casillas

** http://guadalajaradispensas.tumblr.com/ by Katy Brecht

There are three files; I created lists by year, source, and FHL film number. The link to the reference folder is the following:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/21881

Within each file, I created hyperlinks for each indexed list of names and for each film link at familysearch.org. In the Word document, simply press "CTRL" and click on the link to go to the page.

I couldn't find the link for one particular film, and another film location at Familysearch includes an incorrect film.

Please let me know if there are any errors or questions, and I hope you find this helpful.

Rosalinda

Rosalinda, et al:

This has been a great enigma for me for some time. If you could help me locate the dispensations for 1742, I would be very grateful:

En ocho días del mes de enero de mil setecientos y cuarenta y dos en esta parroquia e iglesia casé y velé a Manuel de Santa María Covarrubias, hijo legítimo de Mathias Covarrubias y de Petra Saldaña, españoles vecinos de esta jurisdicción en el rincón de Totatiche con Petra de la Cruz Grano, hija legítima de Joseph Grano y de Efigenia Covarrubias españoles vecinos de dicho rincón a quienes el Señor ??? Vicario General de este obispado les concedió el beneficio de dispenza de parentesco de consangüinidad en tercer grado. Fueron padrinos Juan Antonio Ríos y Theresa Covarrubias.

rosa9972

11 years 6 months ago

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Hi Primo!

There is another area located under the label "Archdiocese of Guadalajara, Miscellaneous Marriage Records." Have you looked at this other group of films?

Here is the link to the list of films under this section:

https://familysearch.org/search/image/viewer#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilyse…

These films haven't been indexed yet, although I believe Katy has looked through some of them. They appear to be single page scans, too. I've only looked through them quickly, but it may be that the missing dispensa can be located in one of those films.

Why these records are separate from the others, I couldn't tell you. If I hadn't been curious about them, I wouldn't have looked at them.

Rosalinda

katy_brecht_quesada

9 years 9 months ago

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the Archdiocese of Guadalajara is more organized than the guadalajara dispensas, and has no ordenes or capellenias in them and some marriage documents found in guadalajara dispensas aren't found in Archdiocese of Guadalajara.

I had been doing something similar except with a single Excel worksheet and
it includes all films, whether they have been indexed or not. This way I
can look at the list for a certain date and tell if I need to search the
book myself or not. I just edited my worksheet to take out some personal
notes and I uploaded it to Dropbox. By using Dropbox anyone can access the
file without having to log in to NuestrosRanchos. It's the one called Index
of Dispensas.xlsx

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/diiby4pboy5x1yj/jJy3nmg6y2

Armando

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:36 PM, wrote:

> I compiled a comprehensive list of the indexed films of the Guadalajara
> marriage dispensations to help track of which films have been indexed. The
> sources included are the following:
>
> **Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara by Maria de la Luz Montejano Hilton (book)
>
> ** http://www.**guadalajaradispensas.com/ by Claudia Casillas
>
> ** http://guadalajaradispensas.**tumblr.com/ by Katy Brecht
>
> There are three files; I created lists by year, source, and FHL film
> number. The link to the reference folder is the following:
>
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.**com/en/node/21881
> Within each file, I created hyperlinks for each indexed list of names and
> for each film link at familysearch.org. In the Word document, simply
> press "CTRL" and click on the link to go to the page.
>
> I couldn't find the link for one particular film, and another film
> location at Familysearch includes an incorrect film.
>
> Please let me know if there are any errors or questions, and I hope you
> find this helpful.
>
> Rosalinda
>

Belinda Alvarez
Hello Rosalinda. Others will have surely already thanked you for your great contribution by doing these master files,saving us all a lot of work. I have two questions: I am missing in the list the year 1873, do you know if there's any information for this year but yet to be indexed? I know that my great grandparents got a dispensation and were married in april 1873 in Arandas.
The other question is: do you know how much time in advance the dispensation had to be requested (that is, if the couple wanted to get married at a particular date)? Or: how long did such a process last, i.e. from the !Información matrimonial" till the date the marriage was officially authorized?

Thank you in advance for any help you can give or for refering to somebody who knows.
Belinda Alvarez

rosa9972

11 years 6 months ago

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Hi Belinda,

What you see on the lists is the most up-to-date status of what has been indexed. Since 1873 isn't listed, it hasn't been indexed yet. However, you could search for the record yourself, by going page by page in the dispensas film. The link for 1873 is

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18519-203-9?cc=1874591&wc=M9… .

Typically, the films are not in chronological order, so this means you must go page by page, which is why indexing is so tedious. However, if you know they received a dispensation, then it is likely that it is in that film. I usually notice that the dispensation process started anywhere from 1 to 3 months before the marriage date, although this varies. However, as I said, since the films are out of order, you'll need to search the entire film.

Good luck in your search!

Rosalinda

katy_brecht_quesada

11 years 6 months ago

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just want to mention that i'm still working the 1836 collections.i've only finished index the first 5 parts. i'm working on part 6 right as of right now. might get it done later today or tomorrow

Katy,

As you add to your site, I'll update the lists. There really is a tremendous number of films. I was helping Claudia with her site. I decided that since there were so many films currently covered at three locations, it would be a good idea to keep a master list.

Rosalinda

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